EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:boognish_bear said:Can we just quit giving Americans’ hard earned money to this blood thirsty war criminal? Peace in the Middle East would follow quickly. https://t.co/nAreZrYx8b
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 19, 2026
Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it. We could have left Iran decimated two+ months ago with no other action or negotiation required and let them sort it out. Crazy idea I know, but we're being extorted for a bad deal that has us no closer on anything we had prior to taking action, and now are indelibly intertwined with the Hezbollah/Israel situation.
If Trump said we are washing our hands of Israel and they are on their own, they'd be completely screwed...
The idea we are holding Israel back from single handedly crushing the entire middle east is laughably stupid.
While we get angry about the brutality of the idea of flattening Southern Lebanon, if missiles were coming out of Juarez or Tijuana and hitting El Paso or San Diego, what do you think we'd do to those populated areas?
They've tried that before and it didn't work out so well.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:boognish_bear said:Can we just quit giving Americans’ hard earned money to this blood thirsty war criminal? Peace in the Middle East would follow quickly. https://t.co/nAreZrYx8b
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 19, 2026
Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it. We could have left Iran decimated two+ months ago with no other action or negotiation required and let them sort it out. Crazy idea I know, but we're being extorted for a bad deal that has us no closer on anything we had prior to taking action, and now are indelibly intertwined with the Hezbollah/Israel situation.
If Trump said we are washing our hands of Israel and they are on their own, they'd be completely screwed...
The idea we are holding Israel back from single handedly crushing the entire middle east is laughably stupid.
We're single handedly holding them back from doing the things you whine and cry about them doing. You don't care about Muslims, you just hate the Jews more.
While we get angry about the brutality of the idea of flattening Southern Lebanon, if missiles were coming out of Juarez or Tijuana and hitting El Paso or San Diego, what do you think we'd do to those populated areas?
We arent holding them back... we are holding everyone else back.
Israel would get jumped by so many surrounding nations if they no longer had US military support or bribes being sent as US foreign aid that it would make Julius Caesar's final moments look like a tickle fight.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why does precisely matter? If you must hold ground against an enemy to stop their attacks, you have to occupy.Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:boognish_bear said:Can we just quit giving Americans’ hard earned money to this blood thirsty war criminal? Peace in the Middle East would follow quickly. https://t.co/nAreZrYx8b
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 19, 2026
Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it. We could have left Iran decimated two+ months ago with no other action or negotiation required and let them sort it out. Crazy idea I know, but we're being extorted for a bad deal that has us no closer on anything we had prior to taking action, and now are indelibly intertwined with the Hezbollah/Israel situation.
If Trump said we are washing our hands of Israel and they are on their own, they'd be completely screwed...
The idea we are holding Israel back from single handedly crushing the entire middle east is laughably stupid.
While we get angry about the brutality of the idea of flattening Southern Lebanon, if missiles were coming out of Juarez or Tijuana and hitting El Paso or San Diego, what do you think we'd do to those populated areas?
It would largely depend on whether we were precisely targeting a terrorist threat or depopulating the areas in advance of long-term occupation.
Why do you ask?
ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
That has nothing to do with selling them weapons. I get the rejection of "aid".The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
"Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it."
You are already backpedaling.
ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
"Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it."
You are already backpedaling.
That has nothing to do with selling them weapons. I get the rejection of "aid".
JD Vance likes to threaten Israel by pointing out how much of our weapons come from the US, but he completely ignores history. This dependency was manufactured by Washington. What does he want us to do, buy our jets from China? Or maybe he wants Israel to build its own?
— Ofer Binshtok - Kafir - עופר בינשטוק (@Ofer_binshtok) June 18, 2026
Let's… https://t.co/sH8wIQYfnH pic.twitter.com/wA30hbv2Zq
ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
"Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it."
You are already backpedaling.
That has nothing to do with selling them weapons. I get the rejection of "aid".
It was next to useless until Israel fixed all the bugs.
— Fynbo (@fynbo777) June 19, 2026
ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
"Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it."
You are already backpedaling.
That has nothing to do with selling them weapons. I get the rejection of "aid".
No worries, Israel will stop sharing all and every invention, technology, intelligence. And will build their own weapons like they did before...
— usanatasha 🇺🇲🇮🇱 (@usanatasha) June 19, 2026
ATL Bear said:Sam Lowry said:ATL Bear said:The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:boognish_bear said:Can we just quit giving Americans’ hard earned money to this blood thirsty war criminal? Peace in the Middle East would follow quickly. https://t.co/nAreZrYx8b
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 19, 2026
Or walk away and just let them do their thing and stay out of it. We could have left Iran decimated two+ months ago with no other action or negotiation required and let them sort it out. Crazy idea I know, but we're being extorted for a bad deal that has us no closer on anything we had prior to taking action, and now are indelibly intertwined with the Hezbollah/Israel situation.
If Trump said we are washing our hands of Israel and they are on their own, they'd be completely screwed...
The idea we are holding Israel back from single handedly crushing the entire middle east is laughably stupid.
While we get angry about the brutality of the idea of flattening Southern Lebanon, if missiles were coming out of Juarez or Tijuana and hitting El Paso or San Diego, what do you think we'd do to those populated areas?
It would largely depend on whether we were precisely targeting a terrorist threat or depopulating the areas in advance of long-term occupation.
Why do you ask?
Why does precisely matter? If you must hold ground against an enemy to stop their attacks, you have to occupy.
Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Irrelevant question. If neither can be controlled by the signatories, then fighting goes on.
This morning they agreed to cease hostilities. We will see.
Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Irrelevant question. If neither can be controlled by the signatories, then fighting goes on.
This morning they agreed to cease hostilities. We will see.
Question is very relevant according to the rest of your answer. MOU could very easily die in Lebanon. And it could be by either party present there.
Realitybites said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
For the same reason we wouldn't sell ISIS weapons. As we're seeing in Gaza, there is very little difference in the practical aspect of Jewhad and Jihad.
D. C. Bear said:Realitybites said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
For the same reason we wouldn't sell ISIS weapons. As we're seeing in Gaza, there is very little difference in the practical aspect of Jewhad and Jihad.
Your level of knowledge and analysis is stunningly bad.
FLBear5630 said:
Well, at least Iran Unconditionally Surrenderred.
Iran closes Strait of Hormuz as fighting flares again in Lebanon
JD Vance: "My understanding talking to Steve and Jared this morning is that things are going well ... the United States has all the cards. The straits are now open." 🙃 pic.twitter.com/0EIfJE1FKm
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 20, 2026
WSJ now reports:
— Robert A. Pape (@ProfessorPape) June 20, 2026
“After an uptick in the number of tankers sailing through the strait in both directions Thursday, traffic dwindled Friday”
“ships attempting to pass through the waterway said they were turned back by the Iranian navy”
Iran’s navy?? https://t.co/X8e1oMhjNr
Israeli airstrikes hit a residential building in Lebanon, killing a family of four, hours after a US-Iran truce took effect, per Reuters
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 20, 2026
Name a better take than this on the Iran war, I’ll wait. pic.twitter.com/s41FdE6Pm5
— Walter Masterson (@waltermasterson) June 19, 2026
Oldbear83 said:
Yeeeaaahhh that's a lie too.
You certainly keep throwing out loads of crap.
We are witnessing the end of grandparents as we know them.
— Mitochondrial Eve (@tardwife4life) June 18, 2026
Children in the 1970s & 80s knew their grandparents as capable middle-aged adults in their 40s and 50s.
Children in the very near future will only know their grandparents as elderly geriatrics, if at all. https://t.co/caeCBNwHZa pic.twitter.com/5BK6zyxybR
🚨🇺🇸 USA ALERTS ISRAEL AFTER CEASEFIRE BREAk
— WAR (@warsurv) June 20, 2026
JD Vance warns Netanyahu:
“Don’t play games with us — you risk losing everything. Trump is your last ally, the whole world already hates you.” 🇮🇱 pic.twitter.com/IUphhffzgA
Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Realitybites said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
For the same reason we wouldn't sell ISIS weapons. As we're seeing in Gaza, there is very little difference in the practical aspect of Jewhad and Jihad.
Your level of knowledge and analysis is stunningly bad.
The only thing wrong with it is that we actually did supply weapons to ISIS. But it was a bad idea, so his point is still valid.
D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Realitybites said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
For the same reason we wouldn't sell ISIS weapons. As we're seeing in Gaza, there is very little difference in the practical aspect of Jewhad and Jihad.
Your level of knowledge and analysis is stunningly bad.
The only thing wrong with it is that we actually did supply weapons to ISIS. But it was a bad idea, so his point is still valid.
I hear a lot of chatter, mostly from my Marxist friends, about "genocide" in Gaza perpetrated by Israel. This is the same family of argument that you are supporting here. That is a stunningly bad reflection of basic awareness of history and current events.
boognish_bear said:Name a better take than this on the Iran war, I’ll wait. pic.twitter.com/s41FdE6Pm5
— Walter Masterson (@waltermasterson) June 19, 2026
boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:
Well, at least Iran Unconditionally Surrenderred.
Iran closes Strait of Hormuz as fighting flares again in Lebanon
Don't worry… We have all the cardsJD Vance: "My understanding talking to Steve and Jared this morning is that things are going well ... the United States has all the cards. The straits are now open." 🙃 pic.twitter.com/0EIfJE1FKm
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 20, 2026
The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:
Yeeeaaahhh that's a lie too.
You certainly keep throwing out loads of crap.
Boomers did that!We are witnessing the end of grandparents as we know them.
— Mitochondrial Eve (@tardwife4life) June 18, 2026
Children in the 1970s & 80s knew their grandparents as capable middle-aged adults in their 40s and 50s.
Children in the very near future will only know their grandparents as elderly geriatrics, if at all. https://t.co/caeCBNwHZa pic.twitter.com/5BK6zyxybR
Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Realitybites said:ATL Bear said:Realitybites said:EatMoreSalmon said:Mitch Blood Green said:EatMoreSalmon said:
I wonder if the MOU will be able to last more than a couple of weeks. I don't see how Iran will live up to it.
They will do something stupid aggressive in Lebanon or towards a neighbor. Something beyond being a toll troll under the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll take the under. It won't be. Cause of Iran. Israel has said they've not agreed to this. That makes the MOU DOA.
Do you think Israel should ignore any Hezbollah attacks? Has Hezbollah agreed to the MOU with Iran?
Israel can do whatever it wants to do, so long as it does it with no American foreign aid, no American military aid, no American intelligence, and no American military action.
It's a zero dollars, zero ammo, zero soldiers policy.
Why wouldn't we sell them weapons?
For the same reason we wouldn't sell ISIS weapons. As we're seeing in Gaza, there is very little difference in the practical aspect of Jewhad and Jihad.
Your level of knowledge and analysis is stunningly bad.
The only thing wrong with it is that we actually did supply weapons to ISIS. But it was a bad idea, so his point is still valid.
I hear a lot of chatter, mostly from my Marxist friends, about "genocide" in Gaza perpetrated by Israel. This is the same family of argument that you are supporting here. That is a stunningly bad reflection of basic awareness of history and current events.
Not sure why you'd focus on Marxist chatter when you could look at the thoroughly documented reports from Israeli human rights organizations and the UN, among others. I've yet to see any serious argument against their conclusions.
